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  MAX CAVALERO TALKS TO ROCKOVERDOSE.GR ABOUT 'SAVAGES', SOULFLY AND SEPULTURA
21st August 2013

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Zisis Petkanas from the Greek webzine Rock Overdose, talked with Max Calavera (SOULFLY, CAVALERA CONSPIRACY, ex-SEPULTURA, ex-NAILBOMB), about the new SOULFLY album 'Savages', the band's future plans, his feelings about SEPULTURA and many more things.

You can read the whole interview below:

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RockOverdose.gr: Max welcome to warm Greece and on Rock Overdose. How are you?

Max: Fine. How are you?

RockOverdose.gr: Fine. Despite the fact that we have an enormous economical crisis, we are ok. So we have an upcoming SOULFLY album, called 'Savages', to be released in October. What should the fans expect from this release and how it is different than the previous one?

Max: It's a little bit different. 'Savages' is a combination. Half is a continuation of 'Enslaved' with extreme metal, some if it even death metal and the other half is more traditional, more old SOULFLY, more groove, like the first album, like 'Eye for an Eye', 'Tribe', 'No Hope = No Fear' kind of stuff. The first single is 'Bloodshed'. My son Igor sings on it with me... I think it's a killer song, killer groove and very heave and intense, very catchy, I'm really happy with this song. The album is full of good surprises... very good collaborations with CLUTCH, NAPALM DEATH, I DECLARE WAR. There's a song in Portuguese and Spanish, it's called 'El Comegente', with me and Tony (Campos) singing. Overall is a very strong record, songs are long, 5-6 minutes, full of guitar solos, everything heavy metal is about, a classic metal record. I am very happy I made this kind of record. I wanted to make a record like this for a long time and I was able to do it. Terry did a great job producing the album, he is a master in producing and it was good recording with him and I'm very pleased with the album. I think the fans will really love 'Savages'. It's an album for a SOULFLY fan I think.

RockOverdose.gr: So it's a combination of old SOULFLY stuff and new elements.

Max: Lots of new elements and there is also the same good SOULFLY stuff on it and some stuff a little bit like 'Enslaved', like death metal... a good combination.

RockOverdose.gr: Why did you call the album 'Savages'? Is it somehow connected with the current instability worldwide?

Max: Yeah it's a about the world itself, about the humans, about the human condition. How we are sold in technology, internet, media and in the same time, killing people, monstrosities. I think in the end of the day, we are savages and that's why it's called 'Savages'. On the other flip of the coin, I think 'Savages' is also beautiful. It's a primitive state of man and savage can be very beautiful. So we get both sides, the ugly side and the beautiful side of being a savage. I kind of let the fans decide which side they want it to be. I'm very happy with the album cover, it's a very strong skull with some tattoo marks and it's very in your face old school looking. Very metal, like an 80's album cover, like IRON MAIDEN, BLACK SABBATH. I think it's a very heavy metal cover and I love it.

RockOverdose.gr: You sound very enthusiastic about your new album and we're looking forward for people to listen to it and tell their opinion. You said you have some participations, like Neil Fallon from CLUTCH and Mitch Harris from NAPALM DEATH. How did this cooperation happened and how the feeling is with these guests?

Max: It was great. Neil is a friend a long time, we toured with them in the SEPULTURA days. I love CLUTCH, I love Neil's voice, I thought it would be great to do a metal song with him. I had this riff, this cowboy riff, we never did something like it and it was Neil territory for us and we called the song 'Ayatollah of Rock 'N' Rolla', which is from Mad Max. Very very crazy title and I like it a lot. I think it's very unique and it was great. Then we had Mitch from NAPALM DEATH in another song. I love Mitch's voice. He's doingall the high pitched screams in NAPALM DEATH and it's great and it was great to have Mitch singing a song with me. We called it 'K.C.S.' and it's a very heavy song and I share it with Mitch. We had one line each, going back and forth. Mitch was in the studio when we were recording and we asked him to sing in the song, he decided to do it and it was nice and really cool. Also there's one more song called 'Fallen' with Jamie from I DECLARE WAR. They are one of my favorite new bands and I listen to a lot of death metal, deathcore kind of bands. They are very great, very heavy, Jamie does brutal vocals. I gave him 'Fallen' because it's the more death metal song in the album. This song could be on 'Enslaved' for sure. Completely made like that. I'm very happy, I picked very different guests, NAPALM DEATH, CLUTCH and I DECLARE WAR are completely different with each other, from different eras, with different voices and I think that's the good way. That's the way SOULFLY is about. It's about different vocals, different ideas, different vibes and at the end of the day, this makes the record stronger. I think the vocalists are making the album stronger, because of what they did on the record.

RockOverdose.gr: In 'Bloodshed', your son, Igor Cavalera, takes part with you on vocals, right?

Max: Yeah he did the chorus and a little bit after that. He has this really good punk rock voice and when I did the song, I thought it would be great to have Igor's voice here with me. I called him and he went in the studio to lay down the vocals and it was a great idea. I think it turned out really good in the end.

RockOverdose.gr: I believe that you are very proud of him as a father.

Max: Zyon did the drums in the whole record, Igor's vocals on 'Bloodshed', it was really good to have them involved, we are a metal family, we have music in the house all the time and when I'm taking them on tour with me, they see no different, because they are raised on the road and they are playing music as well. It was good to have them on the record with me, for me as a father, these are very proud moments.

RockOverdose.gr: This time you had the luxury to work the songs at home with Zyon. How did that affect the whole recording process? What was the experience like to work the drums with your son?

Max: I think it made the album more prepared. I love all the other SOULFLY records. I think all of them are very strong. I had more time to prepare for 'Savages', because I had the chance to jam with Zyon at home. I was creating riffs in the morning and we jammed with Zyon in the afternoon, creating songs and recording them, putting them in order, finding out which ones are the strongest, which ones we felt that could really make an impact on the album. The process took about 2 months, jamming with Zyon for 2 months at home and when we entered the studio, we were really prepared, really tight. I was really prepared for this album and he knew exactly what to do. He knew every song by heart and it took him only 3 days to do the drums for the whole record, quite amazing.

RockOverdose.gr: Max, being yourself a riff master, who do you consider to be the biggest riff master in the universe and the biggest influence to you?

Max: My favorite is Tony Iommi. He created the best riffs in metal I think. Chuck Shuldiner from DEATH, wrote great riffs. Of course James Hetfield, early METALLICA was great. Dino from FEAR FACTORY is really great. I consider myself a riffman. I just do riffs, I don't do solos, that's what I like to do. I like to write riffs. I spend hours writing riffs at home. I use some of them in SOULFLY records and some of them in CAVALERA CONSPIRACY records. To me, it's pleasure writing riffs. It's fun to do it. I started a long time ago, when I got my guitar. It was me, the guitar and a 4 track machine and we created this music at home. It was a very good experience.

RockOverdose.gr: Let's go to CAVALERA CONSPIRACY and NAILBOMB. Are any future plans for these bands?

Max: Next year we will do a new record with Igor for CAVALERA CONSPIRACY. It's the 3rd album, I think it's going to be very strong, I wish to make a very fast album. I want Igor to play fast like 'Arise'.

RockOverdose.gr: So with CAVALERA CONSPIRACY, you show a side of your secret desires in music?

Max: Yes it's less complicated, the songs are not so long, they are shorter and I like the more brutal kind of metal that me and Igor are playing. That's what I like to explore in CAVALERA CONSPIRACY. The brothers playing metal and for me the golden era for me and Igor, is 'Beneath The Remains' and 'Arise'. I could say 'Chaos AD', but it's mostly 'Arise' and I like to be more in this area of fast. Igor is great when he plays fast, he's amazing and powerful and I can create the best riffs with him, like 'Inflikted' and stuff like that. We are going to continue that and hopefully it's going to be a very powerful record.

RockOverdose.gr: So talking about the first SEPULTURA period, which was really great and my favorite personally, is there something in the back of your mind for this band, or should we forget it?

Max: I have good memories from SEPULTURA, I created the band, I named the band, I started it years before Andreas and Paulo were in it. I created the band with Igor and we took it very far, we went against the world, we were considered the worse band in our city when we started, we took it very far. Until 'Roots'. I'm very proud for the work I did, but life is strange and full of turns and I believe that I was meant to create something new.

RockOverdose.gr: It's very sad that you created a great band and you are no longer a part of it. We are all sad about it. I was a big SEPULTURA fan.

Max: Yeah it's sad. I myself, sometimes think about it, why did this have to happen, but on the other hand, something very good happened to me, SOULFLY surviving. Most musicians that play in a successful band and they try to do something else, doesn't work, it fails. The fact that SOULFLY has survived and achieved this success around the world and have many fanatic fans and the fans are very expressive, they have SOULFLY tattoos and stuff, when they come and tell me that my music changed their lives, that's a big thing and I take it very seriously. When they say it to me, I'm thinking that I must be doing something right. I think SOULFLY is my salvation, they saved me, because when I quit SEPULTURA, it wa the hardest time of my life, the hardest moment, I didn't know what to do, I stopped playing music for six months, doing nothing, I was like what am I going to do with my life. SOULFLY saved me. The first album is a very strong album. It put me back on the map, rebuilt the trust with my fans again, showed that I could do something else outside of SEPULTURA, something powerful and now I have nine albums with SOULFLY, which is more than what I did with SEPULTURA.

RockOverdose.gr: Your country, Brazil, will organize both World Cup and the Olympic Games this year. Do you think that this will positive for your country, because in Greece we had major problems after this.

Max: In Brazil there are a lot of problems. A lot of protests. I don't know if you've seen it on the internet or TV. There are a lot of people, even young people, going out on the street, confronting the police and I have made a message here for the Brazilian people on the internet that had a lot of views, which is great, encouraging them to go and protest, go on the street. I myself, thing that it's too much to have 2 things to do. Maybe it would be better to do only one and do the Olympics maybe ten years from now. Not together like this. I think it's too much to handle. World Cup is huge. It's a worldwide event. You have to be a good host, because people will come from around the world to see this thing and they will have to feel safe. Brazil is not safe. It's very dangerous, they will have to do something about it and see what happens.

RockOverdose.gr: Several years ago, you visited Greece, in Athens and Thessaloniki. What do you think of the audience and the country in general? Are you going to come over in Greece again?

Max: I will come again. I think we have a European tour in March. It's gonna be a big European tour with DEVILDRIVER, co-headlining with them and I hope that will come again in Greece. I have great memories from Greece, I love the Greek crowd, I think it's an amazing crowd, very energetic, very passionate, very loud, full of energy and I think it's a beautiful country. It's beautiful to see the sites and the Acropolis and Thessaloniki and the drive is beautiful inside the country. We drove and saw all the beautiful houses and the blue water... very very beautiful. I actually told my wife that I like to buy a house in Greece one day and live in Greece. It's a great place to write music, it's beautiful. We talked a lot of times with my wife about the possibility of this to actually happen. It's not very far from reality. I hope one day we'll find a place in Greece and I can spend some time there and some time back in America.

RockOverdose.gr: So you travelled around the world and you hope that if you want some place to stay it's gong to be Greece.

Max: Yeah! I really love to.

RockOverdose.gr: Maybe Greek people are a lot like the Brazilians in attitude?

Max: Yes I think they are similar. It would be a great thing to do in the future.

RockOverdose.gr: What is the message that you like to leave to your Greek fans?

Max: The message is thank you, I hope they like 'Savages', it's coming out in October, I really enjoyed making the record, it's a special record, my first record with Nuclear Blast, a new label, a new beginning for me and I want to thank my fans for supporting me and following me through the years. I hope to see everybody in March in the big European tour and I hope Greece will be included in this tour, so we can bring our music to our fans. Thank you very much.

RockOverdose.gr: When the new video is going to be released? Do you have a release date?

Max: Probably in a month. It's being filmed right now and they have to put all the pieces together. I believe that it will be ready in a month for all the channels and for the people to find it.

RockOverdose.gr: Max thank you very much for this interview. Is there anything that we forgot to say? Any news to reveal?

Max: No, thank you man and I hope to see you in Greece.

RockOverdose.gr: Me too. And drink a lot of ouzo and beers!

Max: Yes! Alright!



For RockOverdose.gr: Zisis Petkanas









 

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black star riders WAS BREAKING NEWS: BLACK STAR RIDERS UK TOUR DATES FOR MARCH 2017 ARE HERE
Black Star Riders will release their new album, 'Heavy Fire', in early 2017 and will be hitting the road in support of this in March...

pink floyd THE PINK FLOYD EXHIBITION: THEIR MORTAL REMAINS AT THE V&A IS UNPRECEDENTED AND INNOVATIVE
The Exhibition offers a unique insight into a group of world-class musicians who have always defied artistic boundaries...

ac dc phil rudd UK EXCLUSIVE: AC/DC'S PHIL RUDD SUFFERED A HEART ATTACK BUT IS NOW READY TO ROCK AGAIN. BUT NOT WITH AXL
"I sneaked out to the shop to get some cigarettes, then I realised I had no car, so I walked home to get the Ferrari, and drove back to the hospital..."

bloodstock BLOODSTOCK 2017 IS GO! DISCOUNTED EARLY BIRD TICKETS ON SALE HERE NOW
This price will not be available for long so grab your now before they sell out...

clutch CLUTCH DECEMBER UK HEADLINE DATES ARE HERE
A sure fire way to brighten up your holiday season, Clutch will be bringing the festive cheer to four UK cities...

sos festival SOS FESTIVAL ANNOUNCES FIRST NINE BANDS FOR ITS' 10TH EDITION IN 2017
"It's great for us that another Manchester band has the kudos to headline, just as Absolva did us proud on our Friday in 2016..."

tyr TÝR EUROPEAN TOUR UNDER THREAT OVER WHALE CONTROVERSY
Animal rights sympathisers, supporters and activists are in overdrive over this one with some pretty nasty comments being directed towards Heri and the band...

fm FM ANNOUNCE 'INDISCREET 30' NEW ALBUM AND UK TOUR DATES
"We have been asked many times if we would consider re-recording some of these tracks using today's modern technology..."

red hot chili peppers WAS BREAKING NEWS: RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS ANNOUNCE FIRST UK TOUR FOR FIVE YEARS
This exciting run kicks off with two nights at London's O2 on 5th and 6th December and takes in dates in Glasgow, Birmingham and Manchester...

motorhead MOTÖRHEAD IMMORTALISED IN WEST HOLLYWOOD AS THE IRON MAIDENS HEAD STAR-STUDDED ULTIMATE JAM
"I think it looks a lot like him. It's a compelling image. I think it will offer some closure. I think Lemmy is finally home."

korn KORN UNVEIL NEW VIDEO FOR 'INSANE': DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME
'Insane' appears on Korn's latest and twelfth studio album 'The Serenity Of Suffering' which you can pre-order here...

status quo STATUS QUO REVEAL ARTWORK AND TRACKLISTING FOR 'AQUOSTIC II - THAT'S A FACT!'
This is the sound of a band living in the present, embracing the future, whilst cherishing their past...

bruce dickinson EXCLUSIVE: SCREAM FOR ME SARAJEVO FEATURING BRUCE DICKINSON SCOOPS SARAJEVO FILM FESTIVAL AWARDS
The audience surveyed rated the film 4.98 out of a total of 5.00 while Al Jazeera awarded it the Best Documentary out of twenty two entrants...

wakrat WATCH RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE'S TIM COMMERFORD START NEW NATION IN PARLIAMENT SQUARE ON VIDEO HERE
"The current system is oppressive and elitist, promoting racist ideologies in order to push a self-serving agenda..."

led zeppelin LED ZEPPELIN GIVE YOU AN INSIDE LOOK AT 'THE COMPLETE BBC SESSIONS' SUPER DELUXE
Musical highlights on this new collection include the debut of a long-lost radio session that has achieved near-mythic status among fans...

saxon SAXON PRESENT A HOARD OF LIVE GLORY IN A BOX OF VINYL GOLD
"This is not going to be around again and with exclusive art work too. Bring it on - I think we'll play some of these tracks on tour in the Autumn."

journey toto JOURNEY AND TOTO LIVE SPECTACULARS ON THE WAY IN SEPTEMBER
"When I first listened back, the thought omnipresent in my mind was simply, 'That's that raw, sizzling energy we had in high school!'"

titanfest SKYCLAD, OLIVER/DAWSON SAXON AND MORE ANNOUNCED FOR TITANFEST
It's the 30th anniversary of Onslaught's 'The Force' and they requested that Titanfest be scheduled for November so that the album could be celebrated in style.

geoff tate GEOFF TATE'S OPERATION MINDCRIME UNVEIL TWO NEW TRACKS
"With the key finally in his possession, "H" has everything he needs to finally launch his long awaited project called The New Reality. Or does he..."

big country BIG COUNTRY HEADING OUT ON 'THE SEER' 30th ANNIVERSARY TOUR
Big Country will be performing 'The Seer' in its entirety when tbey hit the road for a 24-date UK tour starting on September 14th...

metallica UK EXCLUSIVE: METALLICA RELEASE 'HARDWIRED' - NEW VIDEO RIGHT HERE
"Has it really been eight years? Doesn't feel like it! We’re obviously beyond psyched to share new tunes with all our friends out there via MetalTalk...

manowar WAS BREAKING NEWS: MANOWAR TICKETS ON SALE FOR THE FINAL BATTLE WORLD TOUR
The Kings Of Metal are abdicating and our very last Call To Arms is coming...

opeth OPETH DETAIL WEMBLEY ARENA SHOW
"We'll only play this set list three times on the whole world tour so if you miss it, you'll have missed it..."

tank UPDATED: TANK RELEASE DIGITAL DELUXE VERSIONS OF 'WAR MACHINE' AND 'WAR NATION'
"Doogies vocals were exactly suited to this period of Tank and we're extremely proud of what we created in these two albums."

pete way PETE WAY LEAVES HOSPITAL AFTER HEART ATTACK
"Pete Way and I would like to thank you all for your messages, kind thoughts and prayers..."

vader WAS BREAKING NEWS: VADER ANNOUNCE NOVEMBER LONDON GIG
Vader will be touring in support of their recently announced new studio album 'The Empire' which is due for release this autumn...

dead daisies THE DEAD DAISIES RELEASE NEW VIDEO FOR 'JOIN TOGETHER' AS 'MAKE SOME NOISE' CRASHES INTO WORLDWIDE CHARTS
"We want to thank all of our fans and friends around the world for the amazing support of our new record 'Make Some Noise'!"

bloodstock POLICE APPEAL FOR INFORMATION REGARDING SEXUAL ASSAULT AT BLOODSTOCK
"Police are appealing for anyone with information to get in touch and are asking people to share this appeal..."

guns n roses EXCLUSIVE: GUNS N' ROSES DOWNLOAD ANNOUNCEMENT ON THE WAY WITH AUSTRALIAN AND JAPANESE DATES CONFIRMED
Other possibles for the remaining two headline slots are Aerosmith, Def Leppard and Metallica...

roger dean URIAH HEEP, BUDGIE AND ATOMIC ROOSTER ARTISTS WORK TO BE IMMORTALISED ON STAMPS
Roger Dean has designed over 100 album covers for artists including Yes, Asia, London Symphony Orchestra, Nightwing, It Bites and Snafu.

evil scarecrow WAS BREAKING NEWS: EVIL SCARECROW ANNOUNCE 'ROCK YOU LIKE A HURRICANADO' TOUR
"We'll be bringing our biggest, silliest show yet along with some brand new, probably never heard before, music 'genius'..."

blaze bayley BLAZE BAYLEY TO BE FEATURED IN MULTI-PART CANADIAN DOCUMENTARY
"I'm excited to be returning to Canada and I look forward to meeting my fans, with the opportunity for them to be a part of the documentary."

last in line LAST IN LINE ADDED TO WINTER STORM LINE-UP
Winter Storm, the festival that will take place over the weekend of 25th and 26th November in Troon, South Ayrshire, have already announced an exciting line-up...

tony iommi GREAT NEWS FROM TONY IOMMI: CANCER IS IN REMISSION
"The chemotherapy and the follow-up treatment appear to have done the trick — but I'm aware that it could come back one day."

suicide silence SUICIDE SILENCE ANNOUNCE NOVEMBER 2016 UK TOUR
"Hold on to your butts cause we will be headbanging our way through your town! Bring your A game cause we will be bringing ours..."

ac dc AC/DC IN FULL FLIGHT: QUALITY LIMITED EDITION BOOK IS A MUST FOR COLLECTORS
All of the photographs have been carefully processed and digitally restored to optimise reproduction quality.

ozzy osbourne BOB DAISLEY FILES LAWSUIT AGAINST OZZY OSBOURNE, WHO RESPONDS
"We would have hoped that after 36 years that Mr Daisley would have lost his unhealthy personal obsession and resentment towards Mr Osbourne's success."

70 tons of metal 70000 TONS OF METAL: SIXTY BANDS, BARS THAT NEVER CLOSE AND MUCH MORE
Heavy Metal bands from around the globe playing concerts on four different stages...

lamb of god WAS BREAKING NEWS: LAMB OF GOD REVEAL NEW MUSIC VIDEO FOR 'EMBERS': MARK MORTON HAS SOME DEEPLY PERSONAL WORDS
"Nearly a decade after 'Walk With Me In Hell' it was happening yet again. Art was imitating life..."

iron maiden WAS BREAKING NEWS: IRON MAIDEN RELEASE "THANK YOU" VIDEO - WATCH IT HERE
Now it's break time for Iron Maiden but they will be back for a full scale UK Tour in 2017...

meat loaf WAS BREAKING NEWS: MEAT LOAF RELEASES SECOND TRACK FROM FORTHCOMING NEW ALBUM WITH JIM STEINMAN - LISTEN HERE
"Now psychologist and psychiatrists all over America are giving it to their patients..."

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